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Trench / Anderson / Grimston Family Tree


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Tom said ...
In Chief Men on John Morley, we have "These remarkable years, '59 to '63, were seasons of gathering in of many men to be afterwards used mightily in the Lord's service, including R . J . Mahony of Dromore Castle, W. T. Crosbie of Tralee, F. C. Bland of Derryquin, Geo. F. Trench, Alfred Trench, Townsend Trench, and T Shuldham Henry, several of whom were afterwards associated with Mr. Morley in work in London."
Who were Alfred Trench and Townsend Trench? Was Alfred Trench, J.A.T? Alfred Trench was also involved in the Reading Division, see "Where is Consistency and Truthfulness?". Townsend Trench is referenced in "A Caution to the Readers of 'A Caution against the Darbyites.'"
Friday, Feb 17, 2017 : 19:22

Martin Arhelger said ...
Hi Tom,
as to the Trench-family look here: http://www.thepeerage.com/p3921.htm#i39201 (and follow the links).
As to the Irish Revival and J. A. Trench look at the magazine "Footsteps of Truth" 15 (1897) on page 165. (Years ago I gor this volume from you on loan. Thank you!) Unfortunately the pictures there are very raw. I would like to have better photos of Grimston, Hunt, Turpin and others.
I have a copy of a photo of J. A. Trench + family but JAT was quite old, then.
Grretings,
Martin
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 : 00:08

Tom said ...
Hi Martin; thanks for the link .. I assume Townsend Trench is John Townsend Trench as per now added to the tree. I still don't know who Alfred Trench referenced in Chief Men and Reading is. Would be glad to add the photo of JAT if you were willing to share it? best Tom
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 : 20:10

Tom said ...
The bio information I have added on John Townsend Trench doesn't make me 100pc convinced he is the same individual as Townsend Trench, but who else could it be?! ** updated; actually if you look at the letters, easily seen in this document http://www.presenttruthpublishers.com/pdf/Darby_Precious_Truths_v3.pdf , Townsend Trench is J. Townsend Trench, so seems to be the right person.
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 : 20:19

Tom said ...
Another note; the tree above is obviously far from complete; im only showing those we are interested in and their connections. E.g. Frederick Trench had 20 children, and Thomas Trench 15.
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 : 20:22

Tom said ...
Also should be able to link this tree to Sir Robert Anderson, so will try to do that too.
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 : 20:49

Tom said ...
Martin, as to the volume of Footsteps of Truth; I think possibly you borrowed this from someone else, as I (sadly) have almost all of them bar that one, and various catalouges I have kept suggest I neither had it before or after I lent them to you those years ago! Anyway I have added the very interesting colour version of the picture you sent me back then, which shows many of the Trench family who were heavily involved in the revival work. T.W. Trench also went to Sedan with C.J. Davis. I am unsure who Robert Trench in the photo is, but most the rest are now identified!
Tuesday, Feb 21, 2017 : 14:13

Martin Arhelger said ...
Consult "A Memoir of the Trench Family" compiled by Thomas Richard Frederick Cooke-Trench fore more details of the Trench Family. See here: https://books.google.de/books?id=DSAsAQAAIAAJ (use an US-american proxy-server to download the book).
Martin
Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 : 00:06

Tom said ...
Thanks, updated the tree to show DTG and added the memoir.
Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 : 12:28

Tom said ...
So I was told yesterday JAT is the Alfred Trench involved in the Reading controversey. JAT and his brother, JCT were both leaders in the Glanton section. They owned the meeting room in Sligo where James Taylor Sr grew up, and after his denial of the Eternal Sonship in 1929, JCT took the room back on the basis that the lease stipulated it was to be used by Christians who held to the Nicene Creed!
Monday, Feb 27, 2017 : 21:01

Timothy Stunt said ...
Tom... this is a wonderful example of genealogical clarity! One little extra detail may be of interest. You mention that Frederick Trench (1724-97) had 20 children. His fourth son was William Trench (1769-1849) one of whose sons was Rev. Frederick FitzWilliam Trench (1799-1869). F.FitzW.T (who must not be confused with his cousin Frederick FitzJohn Trench) was the Rector of Cloughjordan, Tipperary, where JND engaged in mission work, when he was still an active minister in the Church of Ireland. In 1830 F.FitzW.T took JND to Cambridge to meet Charles Simeon who had been the instrument of Trench's conversion. JND tells us that he was unimpressed by Simeon (See JND, "Collected Writings", x. 133-4). Timothy Stunt
Saturday, Sep 23, 2017 : 16:35



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