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The Year 1929


by Edwin M. Read

Steve Noble said ...
Why are the anti-Ravenites so ineffective in persuading what this writer calls “Raven’s disciples”? At least part of the answer can be seen in what is in this pamphlet.
The writer says that some of Raven’s ‘disciples’ are “within our gates” (p1). However, he is oblivious to his own apparent inability to follow through on what he boldly says on p8 of taking “a stand of separation from those who, either directly or indirectly, have association with it” (Ravenism). This kind of contradiction is still around today: most of my own set of Raven’s ministry was sourced (with approval) from within a group of well-known ‘Brethren’ whose publishing house is vociferously anti-Raven.
On p3 the writer (rightly in my view) castigates Raven’s over-use of the personal pronoun in his ministry. The writer seems blind, however, to his hypocrisy in so doing, bearing in mind that his own pamphlet contains hardly any Scripture at all and is thus largely a collection of his own thoughts and assertions. On p6, he says that “the Man in Raven's mind is not the real Man of the Scriptures”. This is a very serious allegation, but the writer seems reluctant to share with his readers the definitive Scriptural evidence for “the truth of the union of God and Man in one Person” (p7) in which he believes. He quotes extensively from Raven, but can find little room for the Word of God. If (as he asserts), this is a “simple and clean-cut fundamental issue which the Word of God settles for us on almost every page from cover to cover” (p5) then why not demonstrate that beyond all doubt?
Saturday, Mar 5, 2022 : 18:29
Syd said ...
Although in a different context pertaining to Israel, what David says in Psalm 131 remains in principle true for those, like Raven, who claim to have found new light and truth, often in a manner that suggests haughtiness - "LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me."

The writer of the pamphlet (EM Read) does acknowledge that some things of the Person of Christ - "things too high for me" - are inscrutable, but he also says that from the Scriptures we, by the Spirit of God, can learn some of these deep truths; and we should, humbly, not leaning on our own understanding. Many believers quote, for example, 1 Cor 2:9 and then stop there; they don't read the next verse - "But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God."

The pamphlet refutes Ravenism and supports the Scriptural truth concerning the Person of Christ - at a time when Ravenism was rife. But it is not a thorough study on both sides, making liberal use of the relevant portions of the Word as Steve has pointed out. AND, if anything else, Steve is right in suggesting that sometimes we are not effective in exposing and rejecting heresy, and contending for the truth.
Sunday, Mar 6, 2022 : 14:07

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